Why Bernie vs Hillary Matters More Than People Think
by Benjamin Studebaker
Lately the internet has become full of arguments about the merits and demerits of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Over the past couple weeks, I’ve been discussing and pondering all the various views about this, and I’m increasingly of the opinion that most of the people engaging in this debate don’t really understand what is at stake in the democratic primary. This is in part because many Americans don’t really understand the history of American left wing politics and don’t think about policy issues in a holistic, structural way. So in this post, I want to really dig into what the difference is between Bernie and Hillary and why that difference is extremely important.
We have a tendency in American politics to focus too much on individuals and personal narratives, especially in presidential campaigns. Who’s in touch with ordinary people? Who is experienced? Who is a nice person? Who connects better with different identity groups? Who would you like to have a beer with? This is in large part because many democrats like to think of Hillary and Bernie as different flavors of the same Democratic Party popcorn. Consequently they mostly just pay attention to which candidate they feel they can more readily identify with. But Sanders and Clinton represent two very different ideologies. Each of these ideologies wants control of the Democratic Party so that this party’s resources can be used to advance a different conception of what a good society looks like. This is not a matter of taste and these are not flavors of popcorn.
What are these two groups? Bernie Sanders describes himself as a democratic socialist–he connects himself politically with Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson, with the New Deal and the Great Society. To understand what that means, we need to know the history of this ideology. Under Calvin Coolidge’s right wing economic policy in the 1920’s, economic inequality in the United States spiked:
The left in the 1930’s understood rising inequality as the core cause of the Great Depression. Because wealth was concentrating in the hands of the top 1%, the amount of investment steadily increased while the amount of consumption stagnated. Whenever there is too little consumption to support the level of investment in the economy, investors struggle to find profitable places to invest their money. Investment is usually a positive thing–it helps businesses increase their production and create jobs. But with consumption weak, businesses have little reason to increase their production, because no one will buy the additional goods and services provided. So instead, businesses that receive investment tend to reinvest that money rather than use it to grow. That investment circulates through the financial system and accumulates in speculative bubbles–places like the stock market, housing market, commodities market, or various foreign markets. These assets become massively overvalued until one day, the markets recognize the overvaluation. The assets collapse in value and the bubble bursts. People relying on these assets to pay off other debts get into serious trouble, and a contagion can spread throughout the economy with horrifying consequences.
So what did the left do? As you can see in the chart, between the 1930’s and the 1970’s, the United States drastically reduced economic inequality. It redistributed wealth from the top to the middle and the bottom, resulting in consistent wage increases and consequently consistent consumption increases. This allowed investment to be put to effective use–because the bottom and the middle were rising, they were able to support the additional spending that business owners needed to successfully expand. This was accomplished through a series of policies that if they were proposed today, would strike most Americans as socialist–Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, strong union rights, high minimum wages, high marginal tax rates on the wealthy (with a 90% top rate under Eisenhower), and strong enforcement of financial regulations and anti-trust laws.
Democratic presidential candidates that can be associated with this ideological tradition include Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Hubert Humphrey, and George McGovern. That’s it. Starting with Jimmy Carter in 1976, the Democratic Party became something different, something that was no longer ideologically continuous with this. Even the Republican Party to a large degree acknowledged the need for these policies during this period–Eisenhower and Nixon supported and even extended parts of this system that kept investment and consumption in balance.
I’ve written about what happened in the 1970’s in detail elsewhere–the short version is that in the 70’s there were two oil shocks, in which the price of oil went up very rapidly (the OPEC embargo in the early 70’s and the Iranian Revolution at the end of the decade). Rising oil prices created stagflation, because they drastically increased the price of goods over a very short span of time. This reduced consumption, damaging economic growth, while simultaneously leading governments to increase wages in an attempt to prevent workers from rapidly losing purchasing power, creating inflation. To solve this problem, governments needed to stabilize oil prices or reduce dependency on foreign oil. They also could have allowed real wages to fall temporarily until that was accomplished (in tandem with a strong social safety net to protect those at the bottom of the wage scale).
Instead what happened is that the right co-opted the oil crisis to claim that the entire project of balancing investment with consumption was fundamentally mistaken, that the problem was that there was not enough investment and too much consumption. The right embarks on a political platform of reducing union power, reducing the real value of the minimum wage, cutting welfare spending, reducing taxes on the wealthy, and deregulating the financial sector. Inequality, which in the US bottomed out in 1978, began rising rapidly and during the new millennium has frequently approached depression-era levels, having the same harmful effects on consumption that it had in the early 20th century and creating the same endemic risk of bubbles and financial crises.
Many people think that it is the Republican Party alone that is responsible for this, but beginning in 1976 with Jimmy Carter, the Democratic Party was captured by this same ideology, which in academic circles is often referred to as neoliberalism. It is now largely forgotten that it was Carter, not Reagan, who began deregulating the market. Indeed, during the 1976 democratic primary, there was an ABC movement–Anybody But Carter. Democrats who remained committed to the party’s egalitarian ideology rightly feared that Carter was too right wing and would effectively strip the party of its historical commitment to the continuation and expansion of the legacy of FDR and LBJ. However, they ran too many candidates against Carter, splitting the left vote and allowing Carter to win the nomination.
Bill Clinton took the party even further to the right. In 1992 he ran on the promise to “end welfare as we know it”, a total repudiation of the FDR/LBJ legacy. With the help of republicans, Clinton was eventually successful in drastically cutting the welfare program. Clinton also signed important deregulatory bills into law, like the Commodities Futures Modernization Act and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Most economists blame one or both of these pieces of legislation with directly facilitating the housing crisis in 2008 (there is a robust debate about which one is more important, with economists like Paul Krugman leaning toward CFMA as the more important one while Robert Reich argues GLBA). Hillary Clinton supported these measures during the 1990’s and has in some cases continued to voice support for them. Bill signed all of this legislation into law. Bernie Sanders was against welfare reform and GLBA at the time (he voted for CFMA–it was snuck into an 11,000 page omnibus spending bill at the last minute).
The 2008 primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is sometimes billed as if it were a contest between two ideologies, but the most prominent difference between them was the vote on the Iraq War. On economic policy, there never was a substantive difference. The major economic legislation passed under Obama (Dodd-Frank and the Affordable Care Act) did not address the structural inequality problem that the Democratic Party of the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and early 70’s existed to confront.
Wealth inequality, which decreased under FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ, increased under Carter, Clinton, and Obama:
On economic policy, contemporary establishment democrats have more in common with contemporary republicans than they do with the FDR/LBJ democrats. Carter and Clinton took the party away from economic progressives. The Democratic Party, which was once the party that saw economic inequality and poverty as the core causes of economic instability, now sees inequality and poverty as largely irrelevant. Instead of eliminating inequality and poverty to fuel the capitalist system and produce strong economic growth, establishment democrats now largely agree with establishment republicans that the problem is a lack of support for business investment.
So Bernie Sanders is not merely running to attempt to implement a set of idealistic policies that a republican-controlled congress is likely to block. He is running to take the Democratic Party back from an establishment that ignores the fundamental systemic economic problems that lead to wage stagnation and economic crisis. Those who say that the Democratic Party cannot be reclaimed by the FDR/LBJ types or that if it is reclaimed it will flounder in elections against the GOP are thinking too small. In the 1968 and 1976 republican primaries, this guy called Ronald Reagan was running to take the Republican Party back from the Richard Nixon types who went along with the democrats on welfare and regulation in a bid to return the republicans to their 1920’s Calvin Coolidge roots. At the time, Reagan’s plan was considered madcap–everyone in the 60’s and 70’s knew that hard right Coolidge style economics leads to depression and crisis. But the stagflation in the 70’s created an opportunity for Reagan to convince republicans and eventually the country as a whole to fully embrace a totally different ideology that was much closer to Coolidge’s politics than it was Eisenhower’s or Nixon’s. In the years since 2008, many Americans, in particular young people, are willing to consider the possibility that neoliberalism–the economic ideology espoused by both the post-Reagan republicans and the post-Carter Clinton-era democrats–is fundamentally flawed and must be revised or potentially replaced entirely.
This can only happen if democrats recognize that Bernie Sanders is not just a slightly more left-wing fellow traveler of Clinton’s. This is not a contest to see who will lead the democrats, it’s a contest to see what kind of party the democrats are going to be in the coming decades, what ideology and what interests, causes, and issues the Democratic Party will prioritize. This makes it far more important than any other recent primary election. The last time a democratic primary was this important, it was 1976. Only this time, instead of Anybody But Carter or Anybody But Clinton, the left has Bernie Sanders–one representative candidate that it is really excited about. The chance may not come again for quite some time.
Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal building on the legacy of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. She doesn’t understand the pivotal role inequality plays in creating economic crisis and reducing economic growth. She has been taken in by a fundamentally right wing paradigm, and if she is elected she will continue to lead the Democratic Party down that path.
Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist building on the legacy of Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson. He understands that inequality is the core structural factor in economic crisis and that growth in real wages and incomes is required for robust, sustainable economic growth.
It doesn’t matter which one is more experienced, or which one’s policies are more likely to pass congress, or which one is more likely to win a general election, or which one is a man and which one is a woman. This is not about just this election, or just the next four years. This is about whether the Democratic Party is going to care about inequality for the next decade. We are making a historical decision between two distinct ideological paradigms, not a choice between flavors of popcorn. This is important. Choose carefully.
UPDATE:
This post is getting a lot of attention, which is terrific and I thank all of you who are sharing it and helping more people see it. The downside is that there are a lot of comments, and it’s overwhelmed my ability to thoughtfully reply to each one. To allow myself to get other work done, I’ve had to go cold turkey and I will no longer be writing any more comment replies for this post. In the comments I’ve seen so far, I’ve noticed some people expressing concerns about electability, and I will write a post about why non-neoliberal candidates are fundamentally more viable now than they used to be soon (this includes not only Bernie, but also Trump–Trump is a right nationalist, not a neoliberal, which is why the republican establishment hates him). If you want to be sure not to miss that post, I invite you to scroll down to the bottom of the webpage, where I have all sorts of means by which you can follow my blog (via Facebook, Twitter, or E-Mail). My thanks again to all of you who are helping to make this post so popular by sharing it on social media.
UPDATE II:
The aforementioned post is now available and is called Why Bernie Sanders is More Electable Than People Think.
UPDATE III:
The Huffington Post has honored me by sharing a repost of this with their large audience.
Thank you for the very well written and clear information. I have passed it on to my friends and family, who quite often don’t agree with me. Though it’d be useful to you that I am. Cuban refugee, now an American citizen who votes Democrat.
Studebaker’s is ruled by his faulted premis that income inequality is the root of all evil.
Curt, if you happen to see this reply to your comment, I’d like to hear what you believe to be the root cause of our current social ills, if not the vast income inequality. I’m interested in a variety of analyses. Thanks.
I think the problem is the breakdown of the family & Welfare being too easy to get & keep. As a teacher in the inner city, I have observed how very true “children learn what they live” is. I’ve overheard 8th & 9th grade girls making plans to get pregnant & have babies so they can get welfare checks. One will tell the other, “As soon as you’re 18 they’ll give you your own apartment!” They plan on never marrying & having babies often enough to keep those checks coming. In other words, they plan on staying on welfare. They think that’s “getting ahead” instead of finishing their schooling & getting a paying job with upward mobility. These kids are deliberately keeping themelves & their children poor, even though it’s done out of ignorance about any other lifestyle! The boys ask girls to marry them but, without a finished education – not even a high school diploma – they have a hard time finding work. So, as 3 of my students said, “No problem. we’ll just put you on welfare.”
The absence of father’s in the majority of inner-city homes & lack of respect for men & young men in the home is a big factor. I had 2 son’s of Ms. L. in my classes. Neither one got to spend much time at all with their biological father. Their mom had simply had sex with various men so she could make more babies. Even as her children got older she’d have another baby as soon as a child reached 16, so she wouldn’t “lose” any benefits. These boys ,& her other 4 children did not get ANY training in their home about how to handle money. She used the welfare benefits on herself more than on her children. She was extremely prejudiced against whites & would make awful stereotyped accusations against people who did NOT do what she claimed. She also be believed all white people are rich, even though that is obviously not so. The last time I saw her, after the housing folks made her move out of her free 3 bedroom house because her boys were grown & older daughters had moved out, she was pregnant again. She doesn’t respect men or her sons or anyone that isn’t black. Is it any wonder her boys keep looking for respect elsewhere? Oh, I also found out that Ms. L. had been sent to nursing school by my church. She was going to be an LPN. Her oldest daughter was also helped to get the same training. Well, Ms. L. refused to get a job after she got her certification/license! Her reason? “They won’t pay me $80,000 like the ads said I could make!”. She refused to accept that she’d have to work her way up to the top of the pay scale. She wanted it all right now, without doing the work for a few years. She assumed everybody but her got that $80,000. … I never saw anywhere near that figure and most of the rest of us don’t either. Lots of us families live on $30,000 – $50,000 a year and are happy , well adjusted people who don’t riot or demand handouts. … I guess it boils down to expectations & what the adults & teachers & music/rap & movies tell folks to expect. Some are happy & doing okay without being rich. Some are miserable& won’t ever be satisfied, even though their Welfare income & all the freebies they get adds up to more than thosenot on welfare get!!
Funny how that same premise reared it’s ugly head in 1928-1929 also.
A good look at a historic model that is UScentric. It does not take into effect changes in the Post WWII / Cold war market and labor effects on American international competition. Nixon/ Clinton open China. RISE of Japan. Fall of a
Iron curtain. Rise of Mexican and Canadian labor forces. These created intense multinational companies, markets and international tax issues. There is no FDR/LBJ model because there is no America only market anymore.
In other words, Bernie Sanders is referring to jobs that no longer exist, because they are terrible jobs. Slave jobs. America must live in a world, not a Disneyland island of American made for Americans only. Being of the Carter generation, we were in College. We saw that the American standard of living must b allance with the world. We and the Thailand workers are equal. That is reality. That is why Hillary is sane.
The international comparative context only makes my argument look stronger–many rich countries have higher wages and more equal societies while remaining economically competitive.
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Thank you for your comments. Things of which I was unaware are now clear. I was unaware, until now, of the ideological differences between Saunders and Clinton.
I agree that the Democratic Party since President Carter has left has behind increasing equity as an important policy goal. And, as a teacher I also note the teacher union leadership of the NEA reversing its historic policy of not endorsing presidential candidates by its endorsement of candidate Jimmy Carter. I pine for a return to NEA policy of not endorsing presidential candidates in the primary or the general election. The greater good has not been served by the shift in the Democratic Party away from the policy goal of reducing inequality.
Indeed.
The biggest problems with Hillary are numerous and revolve around extreme injustices: the TPP and NAFTA;, Keystone, Iraq, Israel, fracking, the private prison-for-profit indusry, Big Pharma, Reagan’s tri ckle-down economy, welfare “reform”, Wal-Mart, hedge fund involvement, What have I forgotten? Oh, yeah. Her flip-flopping on almost everything including gay marriage. Single-payer? “you have to wait” until you die, apparently.
Thank you for putting the problems in a clear, direct way for voters. I believe many are unaware of them and only think about their perception of “electability”.
I agree with you with one caveat, Bernie, whom I support, has an Israel problem too.
To me this analysis fundamentally overlooks the huge shift that took place after the war, and in the late 70s. During FDR’s era, there were rapid increases in productivity and infrastructure that sustained high levels of economic growth, as people transitioned from majority agricultural work to majority industrial labor. Most of the world was rebuilding during that era as well, so there was not as much downward pressure on wages due to global competition, coupled with the fact that industrial manufacturing was labor intensive and allowed more returns of productivity to be captured by labor.
Fast forward to the late 70s. Our infrastructure is mostly built. We have transitioned to a service economy. Most manufacturing has been further automated or moved to lower wage territories.
In the service economy, technology has allowed a grand scale to exist. A few thousand IT workers can maintain huge fleets of cloud based computers which serve hundreds of millions, or billions of people at scale. Such companies can reap huge revenue, but have small workforces, so most of the returns are to capital, just give the huge productivity scale.
Advanced economies can’t generate high levels of growth. It’s easy when you’re developing to sustain 5%, or even 10% annual GDP growth for a while, and under such growth, wages rapidly rise, as does the fortunes of capitalists. But no amount of infrastructure spending or taxes, is going to return the GDP and wage growth of FDR’s era. Japan already tried it with massive public works and it didn’t work. Because if you already have 40,000 miles of highway, or electrification, rebuilding it all shiny and new only gives you a marginal gain in efficiency compared to going from not having it to having it.
The Republicans obsess too much on tax cutting as a single variable that controls everything. I think this post is committing the same error by ascribing the special period between WW2 and the late 70s as purely the result of fiscal policies, without looking at the huge, radical changes in the actual economic climate and lives of people during that time.
I’d love to believe that if we just returned to Eisenhower level marginal taxes and recreated FDR’s civilization conservation core and other massive government infrastructure projects, that we’d reproduce what happened post-WW2, but I think it’s a pipe dream.
Moreover, it’s a very dangerous one, because if you nominate Sanders and he loses, we end up with Republicans controlling all branches of the government, more delay over global warming, a more conservative supreme court, just a total disaster.
How do you counter what Political Scientists say (http://www.vox.com/2016/2/5/10923304/bernie-sanders-general-election) or what liberal economics like Krugman, DeLong, GoolsBee, Romer, et al say, about Bernie’s economic proprosals?
I am doing a PhD in poli and Bernie has many endorsements from political scientists and economists. If you ask Piketty or Reich or Winters or Friedman or various other people, they’ll give you different views. A lot of the economists who have come out for Clinton have previously been in Bill’s administration and they broadly share her ideological assumptions (i.e. that inequality isn’t that big a deal). I’m with Piketty and Reich, I think inequality is very important. I wrote a post that got into that debate a bit a while back:
https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2013/01/21/inequality-krugman-vs-stiglitz/
It’s a robust debate–ultimately you have to decide for yourself whose arguments you find more compelling. I will take some time to reply to some of the specific concerns you raised.
We’ve had big productivity gains since the 70’s, but the wage growth hasn’t tracked it:

As far as the growth rate is concerned, the amount that you think is possible depends on how much you think inequality matters. If it matters a lot, policy can be used to alleviate inequality and that will help growth. If it doesn’t matter, then low growth is inevitable. Many people who think growth is likely to be low going forward also think that inequality has something to do with this (e.g. Gordon). Personally, I don’t think we’re going to hit 5%, but I think we might manage 3% (under Bush and Obama, we haven’t averaged that). Even if we don’t, because I think inequality is really destabilizing, I think we’ll have fewer crises if we go with Bernie. I’m not sitting here telling you that we can recreate the postwar growth in its entirety, but we can do better than we have been doing.
Now, on the electability points raised–it’s absolutely true that loss aversion hurts Bernie (but it will also hurt Trump or Cruz in a general election, and it may hurt them more than it hurts him, because they’re perceived as dangerous reactionaries by half the country). The bit about voters choosing whose closest to them ideologically applies when ideologies are stable, but when the leading ideologically is viewed as defunct, new possibilities open up. These openings were exploited by FDR and Reagan historically. FDR could not win in 1920 and Reagan could not win in 1968 or 1976, but FDR could win in 1932 and Reagan could win in 1980. The public was ready to make an ideological change at those critical points because it lost confidence in the old ideology. Post-2008, we seem to be in another period where confidence in the old ideology is no longer there, especially for young people, which means a shift is coming (though it might not come this year and it could also take the form of a reactionary right nationalist politics like the kind offered by Trump).This leads into the next point–Goldwater and McGovern failed in large part because they tried to run at times when there was no public appetite for a major ideological shift (like FDR in 1920 and Reagan in 68 and 76). Timing is everything in politics. People say the republicans are going to rip into Sanders for being far left, but they’ve been treating Obama as if he were that far left for years. I doubt the line of attack has any more force left in it–all the people who are afraid of socialists were afraid of Obama. It’s true that it’s way too early to assume that the head to head polls guarantee anything for anyone, but if you agree that we’re in a period where appetite for ideological change is historically abnormal (and the fact that Trump is doing so well strongly suggests that it is–he is very different from Jeb/Rubio/Kasich/the establishment GOP on many issues), then Bernie has a better chance than he would in a conventional election where the dominant ideology is stable.
One factor you ignor is that productivity per worker has at least parially been achieved by automation, robots and production streamlining methods. All these require large capital investment. The worker activity has not been as much a factor in increased output as you imply. With these production technologies it should be expected that wages cannot directly correlate with total production output. A manufacturer cannot afford to pay workers for productivity gains that are achieved through technology and to also pay for the technology. That would render the products non-competitive in the marketplace and put the manufacturer out of business.
I don’t think it’s particularly relevant whether worker activity has anything to do with productivity increases–if productivity is rising, we need to give consumers the benefits of that so that there’s a market for the new goods and services and the most efficient way to do that is wage increases. If we don’t increase wages, how are consumers supposed to buy these goods and services? We should also remember that 60% of the economy is nontradable and is invulnerable to international competition, and that many other societies are more equal than we are yet remain internationally competitive (e.g. the Scandinavian countries).
For more on electability, I wrote a follow up:
https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2016/02/10/why-bernie-sanders-is-more-electable-than-people-think/
I think this is right. It’s one thing to understand economics or finance and reject profit motive and short-term thinking for a greater good; it’s quite another to reject them but lack that understanding. Politics only goes so far.
Ray you mentioned a few points I’d like to address: “In the service economy, technology has allowed a grand scale to exist. A few thousand IT workers can maintain huge fleets of cloud based computers which serve hundreds of millions, or billions of people at scale.” While this statement is may be true, it doesn’t give the proper context. Aside from the companies that exist almost completely online (Google, Facebook, Yahoo, etc), there aren’t a great deal of companies who can rely almost solely on IT employees to assure that level of productivity from only a few thousand workers to servicing millions & billions of of people – and yet almost every company does require IT personnel now. Automation has impacted productivity immensely no doubt, but the problem is that a limited number of companies have the lion’s share of those IT employees.
I’ve been in the industry for over 10 years and in that time I’ve seen an increase in the demand for college graduates in the field that has not had it’s supply meet those goals, due primarily to the prohibitive costs for requisite education & a lack of educators able to keep pace with that developing technology. Put simply – if you have a degree in computer sciences, why would you put forth extra years of study to become an educator and pass on that knowledge, when you could get hired on immediately by a company that would offer you immensely more money NOW? (make $400k+ or in that same time suffer 4 more years worth of crushing debt to be an educator and make significantly less?)
Another big problem with this model is that once the technology has been determined to be an industry standard, it has to be sufficiently processed in order to turn it around into materials can be taught to others, and then sold to academia as a necessary evolution in the field. This typically takes 5+ years and by then, the industry has moved onto it’s next standard and higher education is now training in obsolete technology – the nightmare effect of Moore’s law vs a general populace that has been dumbed down by training the youth in how to take tests instead of what they need to be survive & be competitive in a global marketplace.
Which brings me to the other misconception you made: “no amount of infrastructure spending or taxes, is going to return the GDP and wage growth of FDR’s era. Japan already tried it with massive public works and it didn’t work. Because if you already have 40,000 miles of highway, or electrification, rebuilding it all shiny and new only gives you a marginal gain in efficiency compared to going from not having it to having it.” In both of these statements you have made one CRUCIAL mistake – assuming that technology is a fixed point. It’s not.
The infrastructure that we have now is in dire need of repair, that’s true – BUT if we’re making the necessary investment to “rebuild(ing) it all shiny and new”, then we have an opportunity to actually update it instead to be something not just more efficient and reliable, but to be more environmentally responsible as well. Hydroelectric, geothermic, solar, wind power, biofuel – all these technologies exist now (along with dozens of others) and we could use them to make the US completely non-dependent from fossil fuels. Now putting aside how DESPERATELY we need to do this for environmental reasons, economically speaking it makes sense too, as it frees up MASSIVE money that we have tied into protecting those fossil fuel interests through military spending.
If we were to put that money into not just making the US non-dependent on fossil fuels, but sharing that technology and production means with countries in the middle east in exchange for fossil fuel rights during the transition, then we could bring about a stability in that region that is beyond anything even imagined in over 2,000 years. If the US and other countries aren’t going over there to fight for oil, and the people there have something new to build their economies on, that’s a couple MAJOR causes of conflict wiped out in one fell swoop.
It’s simple supply and demand: what does the planet have a huge supply of? People. What do we have a demand for? A planet that people can live on. So, put the people to work building alternate solutions for the things that are killing the planet. We help the planet, we help the people, and we’re not having to stick our nose in their business all the time so they don’t resent the hell out of us for telling them how to run their country – leading to them committing acts of terrorism. I know this sounds naive, but if you look at it as a long-term investment you’re opening up worldwide markets. You’re turning 3rd world countries that we’re just propping up with aid now, into actual self-sustaining consumer bases within a couple decades at most.
Thanks for your analysis. Spot on.
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Sadly, I’ve never understood politics although, I’ve tried. However, now, more than ever it seems so very important. Your article has captivated me and aspires me to want to learn more. Thank you for putting things in perspective and sharing your fantastic article.
In the world of bureaucracy-centered policy-making, the ideals of a president matter less than knowledge on how the system works and practice using its levers to get change. HRC possesses that knowledge as she has 8 years as a peripheral spectator with a bird’s eye view and 4 years of responsibility leading the US Dept of State.
I agree. Bernie has authored more than 350 bills and only 3 have become law (and 2 of those were to rename Post Offices). He has lofty ideals, but is unable to negotiate the politics necessary to implement them.
Please read http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/12/1483928/-What-has-Bernie-ever-accomplished?detail=email
Fewer than 300 bills were passed by the entire Congress in 2014, with more than 400 representatives. Of those, about 150 were substantive. With a Republican majority in both houses, the chances of a Democrat authoring and getting Congress to pass substantive progressive legislation are tiny.
The money is in amendments, and that’s where Bernie Sanders has been much more successful than other Senators or Congressmen. He has proposed and “won” more amendments than any other representative.
The current Congress actively votes in blocs and uses them to block (pun intended) anything proposed from across the aisle.
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Why doesn’t Bernie Sanders explain this? We are not morons. Bernie seems to have become a politician in the worse sense if the word as they all are. That is hit them over the head over and over with the same drumbeat of a message, left or right, and not give any detail about how we pay for programs, change etc. And I feel Bernie is about 45 years too late with his message. Maybe would have resonated when young people seemed to care more and got out and told the world they weren’t going to follow the status quo anymore.
He’d lose the whole audience in less than a minute. Most of the American public is uninformed and intends to stay that way.
I totally agree.
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This article appears to overlook Hillary’s well-known penchant for leveling the playing field, as shown by her direction taken in leading the national Healthcare push under Bill Clinton’s administration. She is widely known to be more progressive than Bill and perhaps she is campaigning to the middle but would govern more to the left. I also question the wisdom of announcing a label for yourself as Sanders has done.
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Finally, someone else said what I’ve been saying all along. Thank-you.
As a physician and a father, I see the inadequacy of the Affordable Care Act. Although it is an improvement in insurance availability, it is not the solution to the health care crisis.
A single payer system is the only solution that can work to provide healthcare access for all. Bernie is correct in that as a country we are judged by how we care for our weakest, and access to basic heath care is a moral imperative.
However, when it comes to a single payer system, Bernie does not emphasize the importance to the economy for removing the employer mandate of the Affordable Care Act.
Lee Iaococca mentioned decades ago the fact that it is difficult for American manufacturing to compete on a global stage when our products include the cost of health insurance in the price. At the same time Asia and Europe can produce products at lower costs because manufacturers do not provide healthcare to employees.
So how do we fund Medicare for all. Assuming a price tag of 1.3 trillion dollars, the math is not too hard:
Currently we are already paying that in health insurance premiums by individuals or corporations. If those premiums are no longer necessary, that 1.3 trillion dollars turns into income in someone’s pocket. Roughly 20% of it will return to the federal coffers in the form of income and corporate tax. Doing nothing, we have funded $260 billion dollars.
If the cost of health care is taken off the shoulders of small employers as well as major corporations, we can see a significant growth of the economy. With a current GNP of about $17 trillion dollars, a 5% growth would equal $850 billion dollars of economic growth. That leaves $200 Billion dollars left to harvest from closing down obsolete and redundant administrative systems that currently attempt to fill in the gap from the Affordable Care Act. We are currently spending $165 billion dollars a year on the VA health system, most of which will become unnecessary if everyone, veterans included, have access to convenient, local health resources.
The single payer system can work and is the only solution that will work. It is affordable and is supported by the majority of physicians and Americans. It is time for real change, Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who is proposing this needed change.
You’re too hard on Carter. The deregulation measures Carter introduced were correct, and nothing like Reagan era deregulations. They were pro-comeptitive. Carter introduced airline deregulation to increase competition, by separating infrastructure from service, and airlines are STILL the only competitive large industry in the US. Likewise Clinton introduced telecom deregulation, which aside from the bad impact on consolidation, allowed the growth of decentralized ISPs and independent phone service companies. Telecom was competitive from 1996-2001, after that, it remonopolized with wireless and cable internet. The same deregulation measures are needed again.
Carter could not introduce good monetary policy or fiscal stimulus due to the need to control inflation. The problem was that the sensible policies of Carter were taken up as a sign that the foundation of Keynesian economics needed rethinking, and they didn’t.
I hope the Sanders left still supports sensible pro-competition measures. There is no reason to have a stagnant monopolized economy dominated by large retailers and large producers. It is possible to put WalMart out of business, and similarly Comcast, and Time-Warner, and every large chain, and have an economy dominated by small competitive firms. It was so in the late 90s, and it should be so again under a President Sanders.
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I could write a dozen essays in response but I’ll try to keep it concise.
> This is in part because many Americans don’t really understand the history of American left wing politics and don’t think about policy issues in a holistic, structural way. So in this post, I want to really dig into what the difference is between Bernie and Hillary and why that difference is extremely important.
Part is simply that politics is the art of the possible. It doesn’t help to think about policy in a holistic structural way if you can only implement one or two pillars of your dream plan. Given that, you have to make the pillars as self-supporting as possible. EG come up with a plan for ending hereditary poverty that has nothing whatsoever to do with changing taxes. Shrink the tax code 90% without even touching the basic distribution of what income level ultimately pays how much. I liked ACA because it was NOT some monolithic plan that only starts to work if other things are also put in place. It was just a self-contained policy. Its not part of some grand scheme.
And the difference between Bernie and Hillary is that Bernie doesn’t know this, has grand scheme proposals, and its not clear Dem congress will even try to move them forward into legislation. He wasn’t a Dem until last year anyway, only has fund-raised $1000 for them so far; and for 20 years reminded any of them who’d listen that he wasn’t one of them at all. Why would they advance even one of his laws? Hillary has been in office a lot less than Bernie but seems to have a better idea of the compromise nature of politics. She’s fundraised $19M for congressmen, and been a card-carrying Dem since the 70s, even if she was a Goldwater supporter for a couple years. Even then, if there’s a Republican majority, they can do hardly nothing for her except filibuster. So she’s wise enough not to promise the dream plans. (Not to knock Bernie too much; the Libertarians and Tea Partiers are by far the worst at this. Ron Paul would have needed 100 plans to go into effect simultaneously or there’d be hell to pay.)
> But Sanders and Clinton represent two very different ideologies. Each of these ideologies wants control of the Democratic Party so that this party’s resources can be used to advance a different conception of what a good society looks like.
Just as Tolstoy said (and Aristotle before him) “all happy families are alike.” Democrats’ visions of utopia are broadly of the same utopia. Chicken in every pot, car in every garage, all the kids just a bit better than average. But how to get there? Bernie say turn left, not seeing there’s a dead end. Hillary says the steering wheels not even connected to the wheels, lets lean into the turn where we can, whereever the road takes us.
> (chart of wealth of the 1% from 1910 to present)
Heh, you know that REALLY is? Its basically just a chart of the stock market. Rich people got richer… because they owned a lot of stock. http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart
If he wants to say that presidential policy created these movements in wealth, he really needs to explain how the presidential policy created these movements in the stock market. And note: he’s arguing that the good years were when the market was tanking.
But sorry, that’s not how the economy works. The president is a captain of a small boat in a big stormy economic ocean. Little he does has huge impact, and half the time the rowers are from the opposition and congress is rowing the other way.
Consider if the housing bubble crashed in 2009 instead of 2007 for instance. Then Obama would be sitting on the crashing stock market, and the 1% earners’ income would be contracting… even if his policies were identical to the what actually happened. He’d also have the record of the most jobs lost during his administration, instead of gained. And as I think you know the president has NOTHING to do with exactly how long the housing bubble grew.
*** This is an ABSOLUTE flaw in this guy’s entire article: presidents are powerless to put more than body English on the economy. If you agree to that, almost nothing here even makes sense any more. ****
> The left in the 1930’s understood rising inequality
This is a bit slippery: are the next couple of paragraphs presenting what the 1930’s left thought, or what the author thought? It seems like the former and that he’s tacitly agreeing with them. I’m sorry, but what he says here is flat out wrong in my book. I’d like to read Bernanke’s dissertation that he wrote after 60 more years of hindsight, to see if he actually ended up agreeing with 30’s lefties.
> It redistributed wealth from the top to the middle and the bottom,
UTTERLY FACTUALLY INCORRECT. The bottom two quintiles NEVER had wealth. They don’t have any today. Those at the bottom own NOTHING. Those at the 40th percentile have deeds to a house and car but may be under water in both. Transfer to the middle class? 20 years of seeing how the middle class live in other countries–I’ll agree with him that far.
> Even the Republican Party to a large degree acknowledged the need for these policies during this period–Eisenhower and Nixon supported and even extended parts of this system that kept investment and consumption in balance.
Sure. Nixon was very excitely in favor of a National Minimum Income that would subsume welfare, unemployment, etc. He also enacted Soviet-style price and wage controls. Textbook “command economy” policy, where the state somehow knows more about what the best price for something is than the market. I’m not dogmatic. Communism is fine with me where it works. But these plans didn’t work under Nixon any better than they did under Brezhnev. They weren’t abandoned because of a change in “ideological tradition,” they were abandoned because they DIDN’T WORK. (Or, another way to say that, is that the ideological tradition changed BECAUSE the old one didn’t work.)
> sing oil prices created stagflation, because they drastically increased the price of goods over a very short span of time. This reduced consumption, damaging economic growth
Well yeah. Ever since Nader killed the high-mileage Corvairs, the US was a sitting duck. And UNLIKE NOW the US was still by far the biggest consumer on the planet, and export sectors weren’t as big as today. So, the domestic market in effect WAS the only market.
But today things are utterly different. Everyone on the planet wants Boeings and iPhones and Windows and Facebook and Google and Amazon and JPMorgan’s and the Big 4’s services and Hollywood and Disney. We even export US-made BMWs and Hondas back to their home markets.
> reducing the real value of the minimum wage
I’ve written entire essays about this, but I am convinced that cost-of-living adjustments have been systematically overlooking about 3% DE-flation a year, mostly from technology. This compounds to a factor of 300% or more over a 3-4 decade time period. So, something he’s presenting as fact I’ll admit is an analysis that nearly everyone buys into, but I don’t buy it, and at a minimum will point out that its analysis of facts, not a fact in and of itself.
> Inequality, which in the US bottomed out in 1978, began rising rapidly and during the new millennium has frequently approached depression-era levels
Meh. How do we know this was a direct factor of presidential policy, and not merely the wealthy finding their productivity compounded by communication and technology? EG a 1900 Tiger Woods would have gotten money for entertaining 1000s of onlookers. At 10 cents apiece he’d make $100 a year. In 1950s he could entertain millions on the first-generation TVs, and we’d expect him to make $100k. Then by 2000s he’s reaching a billion plus. Each viewer is still only giving him ten cents or something, but his income has gone up to $100 million. Did the president do this? And what’s easy to explain with Tiger has happened in most other areas of society from factory workers to software engineers to product designers. (Health and education are two notable standouts, since they can’t use communication to multiply their reach. But MOOCs may change that, and the best professor in any given field will suddenly be earning a million a year just for lecturing. And again I think no thanks to the president.)
> he ran on the promise to “end welfare as we know it”, a total repudiation of the FDR/LBJ legacy
“Total repudiation” is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. “Ending welfare as we know it” kept 99% of the goals and 90% of the infrastructure. But a couple generations of experience showed the orignal welfare had some serious pernicious outcomes and in some cases punished responsible behavior while rewarding irresponsible. (I knew a single girl with a baby in 1990. She cranked the figures and said with two more kids she wouldn’t need to work. She had two more kids in short order.)
> Clinton also signed important deregulatory bills into law, like the Commodities Futures Modernization Act and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.
Fair enough, but he was dealing with a majority-Republican congress at this point. THIS AGAIN is the author’s serious flaw: crediting everything that happens during an administration to the president, incorrectly.
> Most economists blame one or both of these pieces of legislation with directly facilitating the housing crisis in 2008 (there is a robust debate about which one is more important, with economists like Paul Krugman leaning toward CFMA as the more important one while Robert Reich argues GLBA)
I’ve written entire essays on this but there was about a twelve-domino chain, removing any one domino of which would have prevented the housing bubble. No Reagan-era mortgage deregulation, allowing IO, neg amortization, teaser rate mortgages? No housing bubble. No Greenspan liquidity tsunami after the NASDAQ bubble popped? No housing bubble. Money managers around the world more careful what products to put their money into? No housing bubble. Rating agencies refusing AAA ratings on CDO’s? Barney Frank not saying he wanted to “roll the dice a little” with Fannie Mae, “extending the benefits of home ownership to those who formerly denied?” Retail customers savvy enough not to sign a contract they didn’t understand or couldn’t afford? AIG showing more sense in writing CDS? A congress savvy enough to prevent AIG from doing so? No no no no, no housing bubble.
Either the author is misrepresenting their views, or they’re lying, or they know less about it than I do.
> (he voted for CFMA–it was snuck into an 11,000 page omnibus spending bill at the last minute).
LOL, of course its cool when a Dem does it. Al Franken got kudos for putting an anti-rape paragraph in a military appropriations bill that was sure to (and did) get voted on along party lines. The next election at least a dozen Rep officeholders were slammed with “voting against anti-rape measures.”
> (Percentage point change in Top 1% Income Share–graph)
Right. As I explained this tells you more about what was happening various years than about the president itself. Again the example: what if the housing bubble had lasted until 2009? Then Obama would graph far to the left, which the author presents as “good.”
> On economic policy, contemporary establishment democrats have more in common with contemporary republicans than they do with the FDR/LBJ democrats
Sure, but is this a result of an ideological battle? Or is this simply us coming to learn the lesson that Command Economies Don’t Work Well?
> The Democratic Party, which was once the party that saw economic inequality and poverty as the core causes of economic instability, now sees inequality and poverty as largely irrelevant
He hasn’t demonstrated that Dems think its “irrelevant.” Maybe instead they think its a natural outcome of the stock market going up? Or communication and technology leveraging skill and luck? Or that whatever it is govt can’t really control it well without pernicious incentives, eg causing the next Google or Apple to start up in Singapore instead of Silicon Valley?
Wow! Fantastic way to fill in the blanks. You post was filled with realism and what should be common sense. Thanks!
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The Democrats had better change or young and old alike will form a third party and neither side would be happy with that. Bernies success must show that the Democratic party needs to listen or young voters will not stay with them.
I have been shouting along these lines for nigh on 45 years now. The last real FDR type was Kennedy… shot in what in hindsite looks very much like a hidden coup in a very nasty game of class power being fought behind the scenes.
Bernie came out of nowhere… there is almost something reminicent of the 1960’s peace movement about his own movement. I firmly believe Bernie is Americas last chance to avoid going down that path that Hitler Germany did.
Great article!
Thank You very much for breaking this down in such a clear and concise way.
Thank you for the thoughtful and insightful article,
Brilliantly done editorial,I really hope the people will realize Hillary would be as disastrous like the GOP to lead the country. A candidate like Bernie Sanders only comes once in a lifetime.Please vote Bernie for a real Hope and Change that you can truly believe in.
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Is there any way for you to get this to Robert Reich? I wrote about this essential article on his timeline, but I doubt that he’ll see it. This is the most significant information that I have read during this entire campaign and I shared it on Facebook saying that every card carrying Democrat who cares about the future of the Democratic Party needs to read this. Please tell me what else I can do to share this article with all Democrats.
The most you can do is share it online wherever you have a presence and/or an audience. I really appreciate your efforts.
I like this article a lot. However, I feel against what is said about Lindon Johnson as a president who expanded the FDR legacy with the Great Society. Kennedy’s plans for Great Society were not like Lindon’s. Alliance For Progress was killed in congress and for what I read Johnson didn’t have love for it. So, in that respect Johnson was dismantling that part of Kennedy’s legacy. Regarding Peace Corps during the Johnson administration this Program became cut or underfunded. They say it still exists but is very underfunded. Kennedy’s welfare plan was not intended to be used as a tool to discriminate or to keep people in the poor classes. Lindon’s was and he was a Southerner. When they say Great Society people think in Johnson but the person that they should have in mind is JFK. And please do not compare Bernie Sanders with Lindon Johnson. He can be compared with Eugene Debs or FDR or JFK but never with Lindon Johnson. Johnson was a the man who expanded Vietnam war and that war set the path for the dismantling the Great Society Plan. Take Johnson out of that equation,please.
Just stumbled across you site while looking for info to take to caucus. Just want to say thank you for sharing your common sense, important facts and important facts in such a simple way everyone can see and understand. Don’t know who you are but WISH TO GOD YOU COULD HAVE BERNIE EXPLAIN HIS IDEALS AS WELL AS YOU JUST DID! Thank you!
Not sure if it’s mentioned in earlier comments, but as I understand it, the CFMA Bernie voted for was the House version that did not have the incredibly destructive derivatives deregulation provisions. These were added on the Senate side by (who else) Phil Gramm with the White House support of (who else) Larry Summers, et al. Even worse, it was then attached to an omnibus spending bill, making it impossible to defeat without (what else) shutting down the government. All in all, not a blot on Bernie’s record in my view.
Great article!
Thanks for pulling it all together for me. Your articles explain what I suspected all along:
The alliance between the corporate and populist elements of the GOP has always been tenuous…. they have played the Southern Strategy, the race card, the gay card, the xenophobic card to the end, and have lost on all these social issues. As their white, rural, southern, and Evangelical base becomes less and less relevant, they know they have to ditch the Donald Trump wing of the party.
But this isn’t the demise of the Republican Party…… along comes a strong woman candidate, a woman who has overcome the sexism and double standards to excel in a man’s world; a woman who is on the progressive side of women’s rights, civil rights, and has come around on gay rights, but will leave Wall Street and the banksters alone. Meet the new face of the Republican party: Hillary Clinton!,
Nice job!
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It happens all the time. “Great article!” — oh please … Take a pause. Sanders has cashed in on just such impressionable minds, regardless of their age. If I had a nickel for every starry-eyed “progressive” who has said “This (i.e. 2016) is the first time I’ve been involved in politics!” — yup, and it shows. BS’s stump speech is dumbed-down Politics 101 at best. As for Benjamin’s college essay — he gets an A+ on writing skills, but praise needs to end there. Unfortunately, superb writing/speaking skills quickly become equivalent with accuracy in the minds of the less-informed. I’d like to check back with you Benjamin, in another twenty years, when your reasoning has seasoned a bit. Extraneous variables are real. Appreciate the responses by Ray and swissfrank — so much more to understand indeed. For everyone forwarding this “gospel truth” article — you might want to consider the bible.
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